How to build your own iMac Pro [Successful Build/Extended Guide]

[mgregrs]

flyinsym thank you for help !!!
I will verify and test everything... with your advices.

KGP (in my opinion MasterKGP)
I know and I understand how it is ... to spent a lot of hours
to prepare something for people, guides, trainings etc...
It's a big part of my life so... I appreciate people who do it for the others!
Yes I can find my own way, like now with yours, Pete and flyinsym advices,
so I will test it... - because I like to test a lot of things....
but
... I have less OS-X experience than you
I trust you and I saw your effects...
so next 3 days I will test Gigabyte solutions etc etc... (for others and for me)
and after (it will be much better) i will wait for "bought" ASUS X299 Deluxe.

Some genius spent more time than me and share his experience
with so great style, with so many details....
Everybody should appreciate his work...
It amazing and I hope I will meet more great people like KGP
Belive me people - In my IT and personal development world...
"nothing is for free", so that guide should be for you like a christmas time

I hope someone will understand my message
(even with my s%cks english)
Thank you all for helping and sharing your experience
...

Cheers

 

[kgp]

flyinsym thank you for help !!!
I will verify and test everything... with your advices.

KGP (in my opinion MasterKGP)
I know and I understand how it is ... to spent a lot of hours
to prepare something for people, guides, trainings etc...
It's a big part of my life so... I appreciate people who do it for the others!
Yes I can find my own way, like now with yours, Pete and flyinsym advices,
so I will test it... - because I like to test a lot of things....
but
... I have less OS-X experience than you
I trust you and I saw your effects...
so next 3 days I will test Gigabyte solutions etc etc... (for others and for me)
and after (it will be much better) i will wait for "bought" ASUS X299 Deluxe.

Some genius spent more time than me and share his experience
with so great style, with so many details....
Everybody should appreciate his work...
It amazing and I hope I will meet more great people like KGP
Belive me people - In my IT and personal development world...
"nothing is for free", so that guide should be for you like a christmas time

I hope someone will understand my message
(even with my s%cks english)
Thank you all for helping and sharing your experience
...

Cheers

... but please, just do me one favor... if you have questions to the gigabyte clover folder donator, please don't address them here in my thread but rather in his corresponding thread, which will be the place for your feedback and questions... I would not like to get involved in further discussion like those of today ... ok?

Thanks and good luck in the meanwhile!

KGP

 

[olofd]

Never mind, @mgregrs

I anyway already reduced in the meanwhile the size of all images to the minimum size still affordable. I don't care about all offensive and affronting comments I received this weekend... There will be always people who think that they are smarter and more clever than the rest... the pity is that they permanently have to demonstrate their supposed knowledge and knowhow to outside.

I was working nearly 5 weeks on a daily basis of 18 hours on this build and guide. As feedback I just receive complains and affronting comments.. That's actually more than deceiving ....

Anyway, thanks for your helpful comment, man! I really appreciate it!

Cheers

KGP

I really understand your frustration and just want to make clear from myself and probably from a large, large amount of other silent readers of your guide, that the time and details you put into this is truly amazing work!

I'm 100% sure there will be a lot of x299 builds around the globe that will exist because of this guide!

One if the best guides in this forum and it shows real dedication and technical brilliance imho. So keep it up!

 

[dwhitla]

@dwhtila please be serious
less than 500-600k is ridiculous!
People wants see something - it's not a dog photo or nice view...
it's guide - so every information and pictures is very important
so I don't know who had some stupid idea to change it...
OK not 5Mb about server limits etc....
and not everywhere, because we don't care about 2mb avatar
but for so Great Guide that subject shouldn't be touched ...
Please relax, because I"m sure - me and 2000 users prefer better image quality...
and if you have 56k modem... we will help you with 4G/LTE internet sponsoring

Have a nice day!
Cheers

PS: Please try understand - its not 1993 - it's 2017
We don't need 50k background - we can use 100x more ....
we don't use 56k modem - we have 10, 20 and almost standard 40-100Mbps internet connection...

And this is why every advance in compute power over the last 20 years has been pissed away by ignorant users.
Here is one of those ~2MB images recompressed down to 130k as suggested. Is this really that hard to read?

Gigabyte

• dwhitla
• Sep 2, 2017

With 30 or so ~2MB images the static content alone for a page exceeds 50MB. If everyone did this and you had 20 tabs open you'd blow over a gig of RAM just keeping the browser resident (just for static content ignoring all the other stuff). Not to mention that serving up such larger-than-necessary images lags the server by consuming more system resources.
It also costs money to host a website and you pay for the traffic to and from that site over and above any included data threshold. Why waste it unnecessarily.
Yes I may have been coding since long before the internet dark ages. And yet it seems I could provide a better user experience over a 14k modem connection than you seem to be able to over 20Mb DSL.
Excessively large image attachments don't improve the quality of a guide - they are just bloat due to either ignorance or laziness.
Assuming that it may be the former I sought to educate.

 

[vulgo]

Here is one of those ~2MB images recompressed down to 130k as suggested. Is this really that hard to read?

You could use imagemagick. With homebrew:

$ brew install imagemagick
$ convert -strip -quality 75 in.png out.jpg

If you want to resize:

$ convert -strip -quality 75 -resize 1280 in.png out.jpg

 

[kgp]

And this is why every advance in compute power over the last 20 years has been pissed away by ignorant users.
Here is one of those ~2MB images recompressed down to 130k as suggested. Is this really that hard to read?

Gigabyte

• dwhitla
• Sep 2, 2017

With 30 or so ~2MB images the static content alone for a page exceeds 50MB. If everyone did this and you had 20 tabs open you'd blow over a gig of RAM just keeping the browser resident (just for static content ignoring all the other stuff). Not to mention that serving up such larger-than-necessary images lags the server by consuming more system resources.
It also costs money to host a website and you pay for the traffic to and from that site over and above any included data threshold. Why waste it unnecessarily.
Yes I may have been coding since long before the internet dark ages. And yet it seems I could provide a better user experience over a 14k modem connection than you seem to be able to over 20Mb DSL.
Excessively large image attachments don't improve the quality of a guide - they are just bloat due to either ignorance or laziness.
Assuming that it may be the former I sought to educate.

Are you unable to read? I said that I already reduced in the meanwhile the size of all images to the minimum size still affordable! Please refrain from all insults you spread against me not only here but all over the web. "Ridiculous", "Ignorance", "Laziness", "pissed away", "Either you or your... f****" ... You are free to write your own guide with all your coding experience before the internet dark ages and to provide a better user experience over a 14k modem connection than I seem to be able to do over a 40Mb DSL...

I indeed considered your constructive criticism by just ignoring all your accompanying insults ..

 

[mgregrs]

dwhitla Sorry... I was thinking -it doesn't exist no more... places with so poor internet
I mean in generally, because if I take DSL i have 8-10Mbps here, few streets away 100/10
and LTE/4G 40/30Mbps, and... about web browser and a lot of tabs
daily I have 50-70 tabs opened on the same tame, and I don't feel it... but maybe you have right and others feel that much better...
PS: about pictures, I was thinking more about clover screenshots

KGP: Please try to relax, I think nobody wanted to say something 'not good' about your person or something like that... sometimes we just say something wrong by using not good words,
and simply we are not understood well... (that was my feeling)
But on the same time - it's your topic and you are a Boss

PEOPLE please stop taking about anything else than MainSubject!

So 2 little questions for You KGP :
1) Did you tried OC your CPU?
I was curious if everything works OK with little OC, what will be later
very important for me.

2) I wanted to create RAID1 with 2x2Tb HDD for backups
In windows - no way
in OS X - no problem (it will be in exFat but it can be invisible for windows)
BIOS - OK (it will be visible for windows but in OS X i'm not sure..)
Do you think it will work without problems on ASUS X299 Deluxe and 10.13?


Have a nice day!!!

 

[dwhitla]

Are you unable to read? I said that I already reduced in the meanwhile the size of all images to the minimum size still affordable! Please refrain from all insults you spread against me not only here but all over the web. "Ridiculous", "Ignorance", "Laziness", "pissed away", "Either you or your... f****" ... You are free to write your own guide with all your coding experience before the internet dark ages and to provide a better user experience over a 14k modem connection than I seem to be able to do over a 40Mb DSL...

I indeed considered your constructive criticism by just ignoring all your accompanying insults ..

I can read very well thank you. My reply was to @mgregrs.

 

[kgp]

LOL - I was trying to help you and your readers. Learn to take constructive criticism with a bit of humility.


You basically copied the work of about a dozen other people (while doing a pretty good job of compiling it all in one place). Because I was also scouring the Internet for ideas to make progress on a similar build I have seen all of your queries, insults and childish rants elsewhere on the web this week. By comparison, my completely insult-free request to "please refrain from including 2MB images in your posts" was positively nice. Get over yourself. Contribution to the wider community is about the satisfaction of helping others, not inflating your ego.

PS:

Incidentally, the average internet connection speed in my country is currently 11Mb/s (thats an average - so many people suffer much worse) and the average for those parts of the world with access to broadband is 7Mb/s. Lets not be too elitist.

Constructive criticism? And just below another insult where you accuse me of having JUST COPIED the work of about a dozen other people? This is not constructive criticism, this is a strong accuse I definitely reject and moreover a statement which is not true, as I also present my own solutions and approaches to make Skylake-X/X299 work and to reach a stable and fully functional system! Skylake-X/X299 is a totally new system.. I think it is fair and totally mandatory to source the internet and to consider, exchange and combine ideas and opinions with others before writing a guide! Wherever adequate and necessary I also mentioned the origin or reason for each individually and finally considered approach. If you do not like the way I gather and combine or exchange the necessary information for build and guide development, I can't help you. The latter seems to be your personal problem about which I don't mind or care! If you don't like my guide in the originating post, just stay away from my thread.. An as I said, your are always free to write your own guide, which certainly will be much better due to your coding experience before the internet dark ages.

All the best,

KGP

 

[dwhitla]

So 2 little questions for You KGP :
1) Did you tried OC your CPU?
I was curious if everything works OK with little OC, what will be later
very important for me.

2) I wanted to create RAID1 with 2x2Tb HDD for backups
In windows - no way
in OS X - no problem (it will be in exFat but it can be invisible for windows)
BIOS - OK (it will be visible for windows but in OS X i'm not sure..)
Do you think it will work without problems on ASUS X299 Deluxe and 10.13?

1) While you specifically asked about CPU, I did notice that Klaus overclocked his RAM - and didn't set the DRAM voltage appropriately. @kgp I would recommend about 1.35V for the DDR4 modules you are using if clocking to 3200.
2) With much experience on the topic I strongly advise against RAID using IRST or any other similar firmware RAID solution. Single disks with a good automated backup regimen is much more reliable. Don't just trust me - Google it.